Readers,
What constitutes brutality, within the confines of spanking and/or corporal punishment? Is it subjective?
Conversations with Spankos: Chapter 7
I’ve seen many photos, videos, and written accounts of what could be called ‘Corporal Brutality’…extreme paddling, caning, or whipping scenes where the bottom’s bottom is reduced to smithereens. Usually, these are things which I would consider ‘brutal’. (This is not a discussion of consent, as I believe all spanking and cp-related activities should be based in consent.) I wonder..am I being judgmental? What does it matter whether the play is extra-heavy, if that is what all parties are seeking? Or is there some physical-damage-border that just shouldn’t be crossed?
Several weeks ago, I received an email from a lovely gentleman who’d located me on the website of my friends at Caneiac.com. Following a nice introduction he explained that he’d not been disciplined in many years, and had never experienced a ‘judicial’ session. He requested that I consider helping him change that by delivering a merciless, bound punishment.
I do not often agree to scenes of this severity, for several reasons – the main one being that I am not stimulated by overt brutality. Other considerations such as health and safety of the bottom notwithstanding, it just isn’t that much fun for me to beat someone’s bottom beyond recognition. Strawberries, bruises, and deep-red cane stripes tickle me to no end, but I’m happier keeping all your blood on the inside of your body.
In this case, however, I acquiesced. There was something to the sincerity of the request..
I often tell my playmates that I can spot a spanko ‘from a mile away’ during email and conversation, and this gentleman managed to so eloquently convey his desires that I found myself happily agreeing to take him beyond anyplace he’d been before.
After securely yet comfortably binding him at four points, and with no warm up, I applied repeated heavy blows with a wicked French Martinet – which immediately broke his pale, thin skin, followed by numerous hard hits with the Naughty Stick. In most other cases, and from the condition of his bottom, I would have stopped there, but he never twitched. Never cried out. Smiled like a champion from ear to ear throughout it all, even the alcohol which I sprayed on intermittently.
So I continued.
I landed a thin, whippy rattan cane over and over and over onto his bottom and upper thighs, raising a hot, angry little welt with each impact, then followed with a much thicker cane for the final round. His bottom and thighs took dozens of hard strokes with this final cane, and were covered in radiating red-black slashes by the time I’d finished. He only screamed once.
It was intense, to say the very least. As rough as his backside looked, he was still simply beaming. I cannot describe properly the energy that was flowing at that point, but we were both immensely pleased with the experience. He has since written to say that this was one of the most amazing things he’s experienced, and I am so very grateful for that.
Was it brutal? You betcha.
– Dana
PS. I am always interested in reading your thoughts. Please feel free to comment below.
Conversations with Spankos: Brutality
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The key to the harshness of this punishment is no warm up. With no blood flow to the surface the shock/pain would be unbearable for a lot of us.
The pre punishment anticipation of a bound and overly severe beating is very erotic of course; as would disrobing and being tied up – but then!!!!!
A bit brutal but his consent and your constant monitoring of his mental state was the key to a rousing experience for both of you Dana!
Congratulations!
Very interesting post. Obviously this gentleman knew what he wanted and how to communicate with you. What a gift you gave him.
That thing we do (TTWD) is such a spectrum of many elements, the brutality scale being just one. I know that some of my past ‘public’ scenes were viewed as rather ‘heavy’ by some but I never considered them anything other than mild to medium. As Einstein said, “Everything is relative”.
Ken
“We were both immensely pleased with the experience”. Surely that’s all that matters. There is no particular credit or discredit in a session of greater or lesser intensity – we all have a level at which the experience is truly positive. And actually, Dana, I think you’ve conveyed very well the energy that must have been flowing between you – sounds like a great session.
UKL
Hmmm. I have a very hard time with anything that is brutal. I even have a hard time with bruising, but it happens. I also recognize there are those who want to play very hard, and want and even treasure marks. Still there is something that I think people need to consider and that is their body and truly abusing it seems a bit much. If the skin is broken, even in consentual situations, I think it has gone too far though sometimes it happens unwittingly. However, some people want it that way. Just seems extreme.
I think all spankos fantasize about being taken beyond their limits. Childhood spankings were always exciting because being spanked beyond what you thought was bearable was always a possibility. Maybe even a bit of fear factor. People all have different limits.
Thanks for sharing your session. It has me thinking about my limits now. Maybe its time for a discussion with the wife.
Not my particular thing as i tend towards the more erotic build up to the release of the joy state myself but each to his/her own.
>What does it matter whether the play is extra-heavy, if that is what all >parties are seeking? Or is there some physical-damage-border that just >shouldn’t be crossed?
No immediate answer comes to mind . . . I suppose that there is a spectrum of damage possible from an extremely intense session. Would a wise practitioner inflict death, even if that was asked for? I assume not. Would he or she do permanent injury to internal organs, say by damaging the kidneys? I assume not.
I would guess that a practitioner should avoid doing damage that would be spiritually unwise for a person to do to himself . . . I assume it is ok to draw blood, and I have no clear idea about leaving scars. If delivering pain is the intent . . . and if scars result but were not intended? I don’t know. What if scars are the intended result? I don’t know. I imagine that a practitioner may wish to meditate for clarity . . . and not being a practitioner, this has not been an area on which I have been meditating . . .
When I first starting visiting Mistresses my limits and desires were limited to fairly simple and relatively mild scenarios. It remained like this for a long time as I never found a Mistress I felt I trusted enough to go any further. Then one very fortunate day (over 10 years ago) I met my current Mistress.Although I felt an immediate connection it was only over a period of time I started to realise I could trust her completely and she obviously realised something similar as she gradually increased the severity of the sessions. Over the years I have undergone experiences which I would never have imagined previously and whilst I have enjoyed some more than others (and indeed disliked some) I have no regrets about trying them with her. Some of those experiences could probably be classed as brutal and I do have some semi-permanent marks but as I trust her, and she understands me and my situation, and hopefully we have both enjoyed the majority of them. I wouldn’t dream of imagining that a similar situation would be suitable for everyone but I certainly think that for me at least the semblance of brutality is exciting. Please note the word semblance as I would condemn true brutality completely in all circumstances.
AS a switch ,I have given a severe session to a lady who is aheavy player and have drawn blood ,though it is not my normal cup of tea ,i gave the lady what she needed to get things back on track and we did use code words ,she said yellow a few times and finally after repeated swats with the bathbrush she said red and i stopped right away .She got what she needed and was very happy that there was someone who would do it for her . I seem to have a “Dark Side ” which is for heavy players only . As to the blood i questioned it and was told it was fine . As to my being on the receiving end i would not want a session like that ,though if starting easy and build i can take quite a bit and im in the “Zone”
I don’t like the harsher stuff personally. I understand everyone is different and that’s fine.
To paraphrase Voltaire: “I may not agree with the way your bottom is spanked but I will defend to the death your right to be spanked in such a way.”
I’m afraid you may have lost your soul in the process, but if you can dial it back to unbrutal for some of the rest of us, I’ll cut in line :)
Anthony
Gotta agree with the last anon (lost soul, cut in line etc). Two related safety issues pop into mind. While Im sure you get signed waivers etc, that may not be enough to protect you from clients family. Something too many heavy players may not know about—- Ive never seen it mentioned–is the possibility of very lifethreatening kidney damage when muscle tissue is “tenderized” as with a crush injury, or dozens of strokes with a heavy cane! The breakdown of muscle tissue overloads the kidneys, and can permanently damage them. That can lead to death or dialysis and need for transplant.
Anthony and Steven,
Rest easy gentleman, and be assured.
The Lady has come no way near having “lost her soul in the process”.
Had you the experience with the Lady which it has been my privilege to enjoy,
you would never have cause to question the sanctity of her soul, the determination
of her spirit, or the boundless beauty of her heart.
Should you attempt to avail yourselves of the opportunities she might grant you,
the understanding that your concerns are mute would surely become very well understood !
My experiences with the Lady leave me with no doubt that should she wish to “break” me
she could do so with ease; but unless I request her to do so she never would.
I believe the lesson here should be … caveat emptor!
As the Lady clearly stated, this is not her usual practice,; but if convincingly and genuinely presented,
she is absolutely capable, and may be willing to oblige.
So, bottom line (tongue firmly in cheek),; be careful what you ask for; because you might bloody well
get it !!!
BTW … the Lady just so happens to be one of the most magnanimous spirits I have every had the
privilege of knowing, and would never so much as hurt a fly … had the fly not explicitly requested
her to do so :-) !
Gentleman, I suggest you see for yourselves.
There are many things people may want, but should never have. Hard drugs and nuclear weapons come immediately to mind. If someone did what you describe to a horse, how would you feel? Can we feel that less for a man or a woman? My answer is no. Moderation, people, moderation.